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On December 22, 2004 6:23 PM Preston said:No offense to the designer or anything, but I really dislike this site. Why use Flash when you could tell the same story using text and graphics? It's really hard to tell whether the graphics are supposed to depict one thing or another. One of the only things I like about the site is the navigation; it's quite clever.
On December 22, 2004 7:18 PM C said:Everything is awesome, what you would expect from a hot sauce site. The only thing that seems slightly out of place are the "home, my account" menu items, they look rather plain compared to the rest. Wonderful graphic work.
On December 22, 2004 7:53 PM Dave P said:The people links on the front page dont't seem to work for me (Firefox 1 on XP)
Other than that, I like the finished product. I suppose the code could use less javascript (lot's of document.writes) but I'll assume a cranky cms. :-)
Good job overall!
On December 23, 2004 3:29 AM Rafa Garcia said:Visually attractive, but a little bit fuzzy in some details in the inside (for instance, in the logging form for accounts). Anyway, good visual job, but, in my opinion, more hours needed in small details.
Merry xmas to everyone.
On December 23, 2004 6:39 AM Freddy said:In my opinion, this site is the prototype of CSS for CSS' sake: A mere workaround for not using tables in an otherwise images-only site. In this form it's possibilities gone to waste.
On December 23, 2004 9:27 AM doug harms said:not a bad looking site, but i can't help but feel that it's far too close to tabasco.com in it's overall presentation.
still, can't beat a good hot sauce. :)
On December 24, 2004 6:55 AM karen said:Just a bit 'overcooked' if you ask me.Messy and freddy is spot on about css for css sake.
On December 24, 2004 9:04 AM Nick Rigby said:Nice site. Very refreshing.
Freddy/Karen - Are you saying that a site that is mainly image based should be developed using tables?
- On December 25, 2004 12:32 PM Freddy said:
Nick: No, on the contrary. There is no reason whatsoever to use table based layouts anymore. But in this very example, I feel that the CSS approach could have been driven much further, outsourcing much more of the graphical content into the CSS, keeping the HTML even slimmer and more descriptive. "Pain Is Good", in my opinion, is a web site realizing old (table) style design with CSS. Which doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad web site, the effort is certainly worth mentioning. *** Happy new year to my favourite css web site and all its readers!
On December 29, 2004 12:42 PM pierrej said:Freddy, you are spot on. I should know: I coded the site. The design was given to us as a Photoshop slice job encrypted in complex tables, and we did not have the choice of deviating from the originals. The result is not ideal use of CSS, only the better solution given the constraints. (For example, embedding the top nav images in the html rather than use :hover methods turned out, after much experimentation, to be the more efficient solution and the least offensive to the conflicting demands of accessibility and IE/Win quirks.) The reason for all the document.write hacks is similar -- they allow us to present properly marked-up text to script-disabled user agents (the Googlebot, not least) and were less problematic (I may still stand corrected on this) than the various CSS image-replacement techniques I've tried. This by way of explanation, not apology. The feedback is much appreaciated; keep it coming.
On January 7, 2005 4:11 AM nathan said:The screenshot looks good but unfortunatly I cant see much of the site at all on Firefox 1.0 + XP.
Seems to work in all of my IE browsers ok (5.0, 5.5 and 6.0) and moz 1.7 and but not firefox?
Other than that I love the design.
- On January 7, 2005 4:17 AM nathan said:
Sorry my bad... forgot I had javascript disabled ;p.. Nice looking site!
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