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On December 1, 2004 2:34 AM Rafa Garcia said:Have you ever tried to see this web with js disabled?. How can you say this is a good work?
On December 1, 2004 3:20 AM tripeak said:this menu style is starting to catch on... the home page is a bit cluttered for my liking - but as soon as you click through to the content pages, it looks good. :) nice one.
On December 1, 2004 4:32 AM mark rush said:YAY my site got listed. - if i document.wrote all the slide down menus then it would be perfectly useable wouldnt it?
On December 1, 2004 5:13 AM Nathan Pitman said:Just not polished enough for my liking.
On December 1, 2004 6:39 AM Bradlay Law said:Someone who uses image100 I see!
On December 1, 2004 7:08 AM codesign said:Yep, the first comment was exactly the one I'm going to post : Without any js enabled, the site is unacceptable ! No control on it ! It take just 4 code lines to tell the visitor that they have to enable JS !
On December 1, 2004 11:37 PM Ryan C. said:The menu definitely isn't Safari friendly.. otherwise, I really like the layout & the general "feel".. very nice.
On December 2, 2004 4:15 AM Steve said:Page feels a bit over fussy and disorganised. Also the photos used are too over-compressed. Overall the sites nice but is let down by minor attention to detail. Also as stated above with JS disabled the site is broken and leaves the user no alternative method of navigating the site.
On December 2, 2004 6:25 AM jack said:The sub-menue is next to invisible in safari.
This and the need to enable js to navigate the site makes this visualy good designed site next to useless for too many users.
On December 2, 2004 1:25 PM Dave Richards said:Very poor cross browser support, I take it none of your potential clients work on a Mac then?
On December 2, 2004 10:17 PM C said:After a second look, it seems a bit disorganized. Menu system needs improvement. Has a "templatey" feel.
On December 3, 2004 6:33 PM JRocca said:a bunch of freakin' design nazi's. Worse than some of the 12 year olds in gaming forums. I pray to God my site never gets listed here and I'm lead to read the squablings of a bunch of "I'm better than you's". I used to like this place and the comments were constructive. Not any more, it's become a hostile, uninviting magnet for elitest designers. Shame on all of you.
- On December 4, 2004 5:45 AM Rafa GarcÃa said:
i don´t think I´m Hitler for saying a professional site must present an alternative way of navigating it if javascript is disabled...you are mixing up everything, pal. Besides, after mentioning this here, the problem still remains...is that a professional attitude?
On December 6, 2004 2:39 PM Dave P said:Good Grief JRocca, If you can't take critism I would suggest a career other than design.
At least here you get honest, constructive opinions regarding how to make the work better.
I tend to agree with others regarding the navigation, but I like the overall look and feel. It feels oftly cluttered however; there's just too many options on the front page.
- On December 6, 2004 8:57 PM JRocca said:
Dave, It's not my site being criticized and I can tolerate constructive criticism, but I cannot stand to watch people make snide, sarcastic and elitist remarks. It's dispicable behavior.
Rafa, I'm not your pal. Nor would I ever want to be. I call 'em as I see 'em and your arrogant criticism and lack of cordial conduct makes you appear to be nothing more than a jealous and spoiled child.
This is not the first time I've seen someone's site being ripped up in calous, demeaning manner. The irony is that those participating, spared no criticism for themselves and their bahavior.
Strange too how I didn't have to mention any names, they knew who they were, came forward and struggled to justify their ill tact.
- On December 7, 2004 4:55 AM Rafa Garcia said:
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On December 7, 2004 11:19 AM mark rush said:Dave P. its my site, i havent noticed any CONSTRUCTUVE comments here, only critiscism... personally i love the site i created, yes if you turn off JS it doesnt look too great, but then again, im still working at making things truly degradeable - the current trend in purism puts a stop to creativity, im working towards blending both and whilst i dont pretend to be a useability guru, im making more effort than most to retain a creative edge - at least it doesnt look like yet another blog...
- On December 7, 2004 2:27 PM Dave P said:
Constructive Comments:
The JS issue;
Safari issues;
Overall "cluttered" feeling presented by some commenters (myself included).So some people aren't the most elegant in their language. Such is life. I think though that you were maybe expecting a bit of an ego boost by submitting your site to this page. That's not what you're going to get here.
You can weigh the comments however you would like, and of course everything is subjective. This is the internet though, don't let it get to you so much. Overall the site is well done.- On December 7, 2004 5:22 PM Rafa Garcia said:
The site sucks ;-)
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It´s a joke: i only said about the js stuff because i create webs for the living and i do know that you can´t deliver to a client a site with this js issue. I don´t see this professional, but i never talked about my personal impression of the site, as i understand is subjective and not accepted by everyone. Mark, you should fix this js issue just when you read that was happening...that´s what i had done...and i dont like the final look of the site, if you want a personal appreciation.- On December 7, 2004 6:09 PM Steve said:
I think most designers like to get their ego's massaged once in a while and take offence when it doesn't happen. In my comment earlier I echoed the JS issue and also mentioned about the over compressed images, a fairly constructive critiscm I think most will agree. I seem to remember Mark slating one of my sites on here with just about the most unconstructive critiscism anyone could offer - "blog blog blog!!!" So it think its a bit rich him saying about the lack of constructive critiscisms on his site. Mark, you need to grow up buddy and dont expect everyone to love your work! The site is nice but your arrogance is your downfall.
- On December 8, 2004 4:11 AM mark rush said:
my arrogance is my own way with dealing with a knockback - otherwise i'd be a simpering mess :)
- On December 8, 2004 6:14 AM Rafa Garcia said:
What´s for sure is in Mark´s next work there won´t be any js problem with menus. There is always a lesson to learn...
Nice christmas.
On December 8, 2004 6:55 AM mark rush said:Rafa - exactly my point learn by doing :) also any new work will continue to push the boundaries of corporate design...
On December 10, 2004 8:29 AM Alex said:I quite like it! :) Nice to see Yorkshire designers doing us proud at least! ;)
On December 11, 2004 7:10 PM Dave @ DaveMania said:The site's alright but i don't like the way that you have a fairly random coloour scheme and also the buttons that are next to the awfull (can't spell) text boxes. why is there a big gap at the bottom of the networking table? one other thing
GREEN GOES WITH DARK GREY NOT LIGHT GREY!- On December 11, 2004 7:12 PM Dave @ DaveMania said:
oh and one more thing...
I could've sworn these posts were for comments about the site
NOT ONE'S PERSONAL AFFAIRS
so enough with the slating each other off already.
On December 13, 2004 6:17 AM angel said:"at least it doesnt look like yet another blog..." Quite right. It looks like another template!
On December 13, 2004 11:26 PM Preston said:I've read all the above comments, and I really didn't expect that kind of harrowing criticism, especially by JRocca. Everyone in the Web design business is so lethal these days, and I don't see why. Mark, I think your site is fantastic.
On December 14, 2004 4:28 AM Andreas said:"Everyone in the Web design business is so lethal these days" - When a client is paying a lot of money for a website and the designers use templates or copy template style websites then it's short changing the client. No doubt these designers charged a fortune and copied a template and code from another site. Hardly talent, value for money or ethical. This is a really bad site. Going by the no of bad comments many other people think so too. I hope the client is reading this.
On December 14, 2004 4:35 AM pearl said:Just read the spiel from the designers website "Our simple understanding of you, the surfer, your habits and evolution mean that our designs are focused around the end user and not a team of designers." So...why all the techy jazzy effcts with the JS and all the other stuff you can't view? Why all the "designer focussed" tech and features??? Not very user friendly is it? This site is very poor, unuasable and the designers clearly don't practice what they preach from their sales pitch.
On December 14, 2004 11:36 AM Shaun said:Has anyone stopped to think that maybe this is what the client wanted, a flashy, copycat design? After all, the customer is always right.
On December 14, 2004 3:45 PM Dave said:I am with Shaun, their is no way to know what the clients wanted or what budget, time, or other constraints the designer was under. Those last 2 comments both have fake email addesses so they cannot be taken too seriously if the author won't even put his or her name to them.
- On December 15, 2004 3:17 AM Rafa Garcia said:
That´s right. Many times clients demand several changes (most of them lousy), after delivering the project finished. Anyway, we must suggest the best possible solution and defend our arguments with clients. I don´t go to a car mechanic and impose him how to fix the motor. Unfortunately, in web design, everybody has an opinion, even us ;-)
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